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- Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:52 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: How to Save Checkers
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1870
Re: How to Save Checkers
I think it's no secret that I've been working on a new checkers program for a while now. So far I solved "Perfect Play" databases for all of DB-7 (4x3, 5x2, and 6x1) some of DB-8 (4x4 and most of 5x3, should be done in a few days), DB-9 5 kings vs. 4 kings and 4 kings + 1 checker vs. 4 kin...
- Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:51 am
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: 4 checkers vs. 4 checkers: longest win = 119 moves
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3657
Re: 4 checkers vs. 4 checkers: longest win = 119 moves
4 checkers vs. 4 checkers.
- Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:01 am
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: 4 checkers vs. 4 checkers: longest win = 119 moves
- Replies: 2
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4 checkers vs. 4 checkers: longest win = 119 moves
White to move and win in 119. There is no longer win with 4 checkers vs. 4 checkers
- Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:33 pm
- Forum: Positions
- Topic: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5907
Re: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site
I see value in so-called perfect solutions when they establish draws in near hopeless situations, or for adjudicating games that would otherwise disrupt the timing of a tournament. But I see no value in prolonging a win after it becomes apparent to all reasonable parties that it is a win, or in imp...
- Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:08 pm
- Forum: Positions
- Topic: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5907
Re: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site
Just friendly remind you, that good portion of advanced problems with solutions (and also many, many other nice things) you can find on the Al Lyman site - former ACF website ( http://www.acfcheckers.com ). http://www.acfcheckers.com/advanced.htm Regards, Alex Hi Alex, Since I completed the 8-piece...
- Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:37 am
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: 8-Piece Perfect Play Database Solved
- Replies: 1
- Views: 8607
8-Piece Perfect Play Database Solved
I finished solving all of the 4x4 endings with Perfect Play. The longest win is 293-ply. I can now instantaneously show the quickest wins and strongest defense to any 4x4 position. I also probed the databases for things like the longest win in a bridge ending and the longest win with 4 checkers agai...
- Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:32 am
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard stuff
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6262
Re: GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard s
If you search on "Gui checkers checkerboard" you should find the version Ed Gilbert worked on after I gave him my source code. He's on vacation until March and I forget where he uploaded it.John Acker wrote:Ed, can you post the link for the latest version, please? Thanks.
- Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:16 pm
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3691
Re: Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces
Well, the 4x3 set has been solved with perfect play since 2001, but the claim could not yet be made that all 7-piece endings were "strongly solved." Gil Dodgen and I decided to skip the 5x2 and 6x1 set, since, as you alluded to, it's not really that interesting. Since I'm doing db8 4x4 rig...
- Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:16 am
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3691
Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces
My computer has reported that today it finished solving all of the 6x1 slices with "perfect play," down to the last one, 6 checkers against 1 checker. With white to move with the 6 checkers, the position with the longest win requires 29-ply to complete. I seem to recall Gil Dodgen's birthd...
- Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:02 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Equipment
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1679
Re: Equipment
Richard Pask wrote:If I order a board and pieces from the ACF website, are they able to ship it to the UK (and give me the equivalent total sterling price)?
Oh no, did Donald Trump talk Theresa May into outlawing draughts?
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:32 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The show match
- Replies: 48
- Views: 12636
Re: The show match
Ed, One question: If your database plays for the shortest win and defends for the longest loss, what does it do with draws? Since draws can go for an infinite number of moves, when does it concede a draw? I guess that's two questions. One comment: A checker game is not a team sport. A team of stron...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:18 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The show match
- Replies: 48
- Views: 12636
Re: The show match
So, my resolution after this match - I can do it better next time! One of the things I am working on is very large perfect play databases (10 pieces). These databases require 2 bytes for every position, and there are over 8 trillion positions. It will take about 20 terabytes to store everything. Bu...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:33 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The show match
- Replies: 48
- Views: 12636
Re: The show match
A few comments I have: First, congratulations to Alex. Given the speed of checkers programs today, combined with their opening books and endgame databases, they are almost playing with a "draw in hand." The opening books navigate almost every pitfall at the start, and once out of book, the...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:59 pm
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard stuff
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6262
GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard stuff
A special thanks to Ed Gilbert for updating CheckerBoard to allow for incremental time controls, rebuilding the GUI Checkers 1.05 book into the new version 1.12 book, and modifying the GUI Checkers timing/logic/search abort under time pressure code to make it a much more challenging opponent under f...
- Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:34 pm
- Forum: Projects/Programming
- Topic: 9-Piece Perfect Play Databases
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3693
Re: 9-Piece Perfect Play Databases
There is a new ending that has been solved: 4 kings + 1 checker vs. 4 kings.
Amazingly, the longest win is 291-ply, the same length as the longest known win so far for 8 pieces. Here is the position.
White to move wins in 291.
Amazingly, the longest win is 291-ply, the same length as the longest known win so far for 8 pieces. Here is the position.
White to move wins in 291.