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by Ed Trice
Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How to Save Checkers
Replies: 4
Views: 1870

Re: How to Save Checkers

I think it's no secret that I've been working on a new checkers program for a while now. So far I solved "Perfect Play" databases for all of DB-7 (4x3, 5x2, and 6x1) some of DB-8 (4x4 and most of 5x3, should be done in a few days), DB-9 5 kings vs. 4 kings and 4 kings + 1 checker vs. 4 kin...
by Ed Trice
Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:01 am
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: 4 checkers vs. 4 checkers: longest win = 119 moves
Replies: 2
Views: 3657

4 checkers vs. 4 checkers: longest win = 119 moves

White to move and win in 119. There is no longer win with 4 checkers vs. 4 checkers

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by Ed Trice
Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:33 pm
Forum: Positions
Topic: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site
Replies: 4
Views: 5907

Re: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site

I see value in so-called perfect solutions when they establish draws in near hopeless situations, or for adjudicating games that would otherwise disrupt the timing of a tournament. But I see no value in prolonging a win after it becomes apparent to all reasonable parties that it is a win, or in imp...
by Ed Trice
Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:08 pm
Forum: Positions
Topic: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site
Replies: 4
Views: 5907

Re: Advanced problems on Al Lyman site

Just friendly remind you, that good portion of advanced problems with solutions (and also many, many other nice things) you can find on the Al Lyman site - former ACF website ( http://www.acfcheckers.com ). http://www.acfcheckers.com/advanced.htm Regards, Alex Hi Alex, Since I completed the 8-piece...
by Ed Trice
Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:37 am
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: 8-Piece Perfect Play Database Solved
Replies: 1
Views: 8607

8-Piece Perfect Play Database Solved

I finished solving all of the 4x4 endings with Perfect Play. The longest win is 293-ply. I can now instantaneously show the quickest wins and strongest defense to any 4x4 position. I also probed the databases for things like the longest win in a bridge ending and the longest win with 4 checkers agai...
by Ed Trice
Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:32 am
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard stuff
Replies: 5
Views: 6262

Re: GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard s

John Acker wrote:Ed, can you post the link for the latest version, please? Thanks.
If you search on "Gui checkers checkerboard" you should find the version Ed Gilbert worked on after I gave him my source code. He's on vacation until March and I forget where he uploaded it.
by Ed Trice
Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:16 pm
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces
Replies: 2
Views: 3691

Re: Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces

Well, the 4x3 set has been solved with perfect play since 2001, but the claim could not yet be made that all 7-piece endings were "strongly solved." Gil Dodgen and I decided to skip the 5x2 and 6x1 set, since, as you alluded to, it's not really that interesting. Since I'm doing db8 4x4 rig...
by Ed Trice
Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:16 am
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces
Replies: 2
Views: 3691

Checkers is Strongly Solved Through 7 Pieces

My computer has reported that today it finished solving all of the 6x1 slices with "perfect play," down to the last one, 6 checkers against 1 checker. With white to move with the 6 checkers, the position with the longest win requires 29-ply to complete. I seem to recall Gil Dodgen's birthd...
by Ed Trice
Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:02 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Equipment
Replies: 3
Views: 1679

Re: Equipment

Richard Pask wrote:If I order a board and pieces from the ACF website, are they able to ship it to the UK (and give me the equivalent total sterling price)?

Oh no, did Donald Trump talk Theresa May into outlawing draughts?
by Ed Trice
Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:32 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The show match
Replies: 48
Views: 12636

Re: The show match

Ed, One question: If your database plays for the shortest win and defends for the longest loss, what does it do with draws? Since draws can go for an infinite number of moves, when does it concede a draw? I guess that's two questions. One comment: A checker game is not a team sport. A team of stron...
by Ed Trice
Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The show match
Replies: 48
Views: 12636

Re: The show match

So, my resolution after this match - I can do it better next time! One of the things I am working on is very large perfect play databases (10 pieces). These databases require 2 bytes for every position, and there are over 8 trillion positions. It will take about 20 terabytes to store everything. Bu...
by Ed Trice
Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:33 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The show match
Replies: 48
Views: 12636

Re: The show match

A few comments I have: First, congratulations to Alex. Given the speed of checkers programs today, combined with their opening books and endgame databases, they are almost playing with a "draw in hand." The opening books navigate almost every pitfall at the start, and once out of book, the...
by Ed Trice
Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:59 pm
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard stuff
Replies: 5
Views: 6262

GUI Checkers 1.12 64-bit, 6-piece DB, new CheckerBoard stuff

A special thanks to Ed Gilbert for updating CheckerBoard to allow for incremental time controls, rebuilding the GUI Checkers 1.05 book into the new version 1.12 book, and modifying the GUI Checkers timing/logic/search abort under time pressure code to make it a much more challenging opponent under f...
by Ed Trice
Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:34 pm
Forum: Projects/Programming
Topic: 9-Piece Perfect Play Databases
Replies: 2
Views: 3693

Re: 9-Piece Perfect Play Databases

There is a new ending that has been solved: 4 kings + 1 checker vs. 4 kings.

Amazingly, the longest win is 291-ply, the same length as the longest known win so far for 8 pieces. Here is the position.

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White to move wins in 291.