womens world match

[kiwinurse]

Can somebody please enlighten me as to what is happening with this match? Have the WCDF organized a match between Toyeva and Amangul yet?Or is it going to slip by the wayside as in previous challenges, with Amangel sitting on her unchallenged throne forever?
If thats the case then its time to abolish the womens matches,because its pointless carrying on,

[rich beckwith]

As indicated by WCDF statutes, a call for bids was made. However, no ladies-match bids were submitted to WCDF this time around. An alternate scheme of occasionally using qualifier tournaments to determine the ladies champion is being considered.

[kiwinurse]

Considering Toyeva is living in the same area as Amangul,i think its a bit strange they cant get together to organize a match,what hope is there for anyone else,if they cant even organize a match in their home town? To me its a stalemate situation,and i think the idea of abolishing the title a very good one if its dead anyway,and no-one has any hope to challenge.
How many other titles in checkers are sitting dead with no challengers.Maybe this all needs to be looked at and revamped,

[kiwinurse]

Can you explain to me the alternative scheme Richard?

[Ingo_Zachos]

Can you explain to me the alternative scheme Richard?

It would be very simple Jan:

A title tournament (not a Qualifier), and longer circles.
The titles would be at stake in a tournament each four years, that can be played in two days events for GAYP and 3-move respectively, or maybe just one event for 3-moveon four days.
In the four years, the title holder may arrange a match with a challenger, but at least each four yerars the title would be at stake.

Another advantage is that cycle would match an Olympiad, much like the WMSG, to allow it to be integrated to the WMSG, in case Checkers is allowed more then one event. Note Beijing 2008 had the highest number of female players, despite the fact that it had no own female event.
But certainly the idea needs further discussion.
And this forum could be a place for it, as well as the next GA.


Greetinx from the other side of the world,

Ingo Zachos

[kiwinurse]

That is the first sensible thing you guys have talked about regarding womens matches ever.Indeed when i futilely tried to get a match going with Amangul,my husband talked about this to Hugh Devlin,as the best way for tournaments, In fact years ago he also mentioned it on the forum.He will be pleased to hear that you guys are at last considering this,my feelings are youll get much more participation if you implement this,thanks Ingo, Jan

[kiwinurse]

As it stands the womens is dead,simply because you cant get a match with Amangul,and this shouldnt be allowed to continue,in fairness to other women players,not to mention the cost of attending a qualifier.

[kiwinurse]

And also it would also be a good scenario for the mens as well.Jan

[wilmaw]

This all sounds like a good idea - just one title match for women. It's a sure thing that there would be a lot more women participating. Two or three as has been the case the last two years with the "Qualifier" is not a good representation of women checker players. The expense of traveling to the Qualifier, then the next to meet the reigning champion is out of the question for some very good women players. I'm for just the one event to determine the champion.

[Alex_Moiseyev]

Yes, one challenger - one match. Zero challengers - zero matches.

[kiwinurse]

The four year cycle is a much better idea,giving people time to save and come

[Lindus Edwards]

Why has it proved so difficult to arrange a world championship match between the ladies, bearing in mind that they live in the same country?

Has the WCDF contacted the challenger to provide her with advice in this matter?

I was looking forward to the match between these two great players. I will gladly make a financial contribution if and when I know the match is definitely going to be played.


Bearing in mind that challengers from New Zealand, Mongolia and Turkmenistan failed to get their deserved title shot I think the only sensible way forward is to play a tournament at three-move restriction every four years and indeed at freestyle, thus providing the ladies with a world championship tournament every two years.

If anybody can suggest anything better than the above I would like to know about it.

[kiwinurse]

Interestingly,have just received an email from Hurmagul Toyeva,saying she wanted to play a match with Amangul,but unfortunately she didnt know anything about this match,Please,she says,can you give me some information about this, if you know?Lets see,she qualified to play Amangul last year in october.It is now June, and not one member of the WCDF has been in touch with her,about the match? Eight months,and not a word.Even if it was just to tell her there has been no bid for it?
She lives in the same area,why has there been no communication?What is up with the WCDF that they have allowed this to happen?I know how i felt and the absolute frustration of not getting anywhere with Amangul's father in trying to attend a match,so my heart goes out to her.

[tommyc]

The situation with the womens WCM is in my opinion is as untenable as Sepp Blatters situ in world football.......however there is because of thefact there are so few lady players and common sense must kick in here ands the format changed to Ty play.We have 4 f[good lady players let them go in a a Ty format if only to keep interest going or drop the ladies WC all together.Its black and white when will the WCDF ever learn that public opinion is tilted in this direction and do the sensible thing before we have no players left.

I would also add i would be strongly in favour of the mens WC decided in that same manner,in Ty play not match play ,still have the Qualifiersand take the top 3 finishers plus the champion and put them in Tournament to decide the winner a much more rounded way of seeing who the best player really is .

[kiwinurse]

Excellent comments Tommy,i agree wholeheartedly,i think if that happened yud have a lot more participation,and the game would be revived,but that still does not excuse Toyevas case where she doesnt know whats happening.