Moiseyev-Borghetti 3-Move Championship Match

[Danny_Alvarez]

today for me it was a particularly exciting day.... i was abruptly woken up by my youngest... and i checked the clock which read 7 am.... i decided to log in while i made some coffee and i wondered if the games were still going.
to my delight they were still going and i found a full house of spectators. we had a few delightful conversations and i enjoyed the banter and comraderie immensely . It has been a great event, hosted and produced to the highest level. Both Michele and Alex have made themselves proud with their checkers prowess (despite a few oversights and missed wins, they are human after all) . I personally think the ACF and FID should be extremely proud. I also was inspired to perhaps study a book or two (i won't say "study more" cause i havent studied checkers since the late 90s) .
An event like this brings out the best in everyone and i am glad i was able to witness it.

cheers
Danny "I hope my baby daughter wakes me up b4 7 tomorrow" Alvarez

[RMDionisio]

Great job so far alex! Good luck and give him the horns my friend
-Ray

[tommyc]

I SHOWED THIS IN MY 2ND COMP BOOK...............THE TWILIGHT ZONE 913 2420 1116

WCM GAME 29
9-13, 24-20, 11-16, 20-11, 7-16, 22-18, 16-19, 23-16, 12-19, 18-14,
10-17, 21-14, 6-9, 27-24, 9-18, 24-15, 1-6, 28-24, 5-9, 32-27 [, 9-14,
24-19, 8-11**, 15-8, 4-11, 25-21[A1][A], 3-8****BIG STAR AND ONLY SEE NOTE A1
DRAW.

[A]IF 26-22, 3-8, 22-15, 11-18, 30-26, 2-7, 19-16,
6-9**STARRED TO DRAW, 27-24[C], 8-12, 24-20draw TCs Compilation.



A MOISEYEV COOK..................................NO!! NO!! Straight outa my own book 2nd Edit............................VAR 2 PAGE 129.


SUNE POSTED.............................(A):
The new move, but covered in Cannings Compilation (Sune Thrane)

Correction then its a "Canning Cook".....................................sorry Alex!!

Always read "Cannings Compilation 2nd Edition" every day.

[A1].........AFTER [2521!!!! THE "COOK "]AND 3-8*........... ..29-25, and red requires a series of star moves to draw. 2-7**, 27-24, 18-23*** first and only draw,
[6-10?? BORGHETTI S LOSES EASILY AS DOES 710 ALSO] cont after 18-23***..25-22, 7-10*, 22-18, 6-9, 24-20, 8-12, 20-16, 11-20, 18-15, 14-18*,
15-6, 18-22*, 26-17, 13-22, 21-17 to a draw after a series of star moves .NICE!!.............TC

[tommyc]

THE TWILIGHT ZONE............MOISEYEV HAD RED.................................................GAME 28

9-13, 24-20, 11-16, 20-11, 7-16, 27-24!!,A DEVIATION BUT COMES TO THE
SAME.. 16-19, 23-16, 12-19, 24-15, 10-19, 22-18,3-7, 32-27, 5-9,
25-22,PP TO HERE THEN.......8-11???[A]..........DISASTER!!

[A] AND AFTER 9 MOVES MOISEYEV FINDS HIM SELF IN A LOSING POSITION??...........TC

[tommyc]

Game 30

RED: Michele Borghetti
WHITE: Alex Moiseyev

1. 9-13 24-20
2. 11-16 20x11
3. 7x16 22-18
4. 16-19 23x16
5. 12x19 18-14
6. 10x17 21x14
7. 6-9 27-24
8. 9x18 24x15
9. 5-9 28-24
10. 1-6 24-19
11. 9-14 32-27
12. 8-11 15x8
13. 4x11 25-21
14. 3-8 29-25
15. 2-7 27-24(A)SUNE POSTED.............................(A):
The new move, but covered in Cannings Compilation (Sune Thrane)

Correction then its a "Canning Cook".....................................sorry Alex!!

[tommyc]

John forget the vocal support...................Alex can thank his lucky stars he s not playing Ron King.This is a champion in decline [big time] he s fortunate that he managed some wins in the new openings otherwise he would be no more.Having said that its just a matter of time.Can he hold himself together ,im not sure from some of his play hes a spent force ,its just a matter of time.

[Danny_Alvarez]

John forget the vocal support...................Alex can thank his lucky stars he s not playing Ron King.This is a champion in decline [big time] he s fortunate that he managed some wins in the new openings otherwise he would be no more.Having said that its just a matter of time.Can he hold himself together ,im not sure from some of his play hes a spent force ,its just a matter of time.

I think that there's plenty of Alex to go around, and while there were a few errors out there by both sides. Alex is winning with enough margin as to leave no doubt who was the dominant player of the match.
cheers
Danny Alvarez

[Bernard Coll]

In the Golden era of Tinsley, Hellman and Asa Long it would have been unimaginable for any of them to actually lose 5 games.

[George Hay]

JohnAcker, I do not consider playing out a "lost position" being a "poor sport," especially when there is at least one man (not all kings) on the board. If someone dogs it to drag out the time clock, that is a different matter! According to Willie Ryan in a well known story, he claimed Newell Banks messed up the wining side of first position and therefore should sleep with Ryan's new book under his pillow (LOL). How well do masters really know the endings? They are rarely called upon to play them, so maybe they figure it is better to study the openings in depth instead of the endings. You never know who might be rusty when it comes to an intricate ending. Mistakes happen in all phases of the game. The end game in Anglo-American Checkers is its greatest strength, and a master should be glad to showcase his or her talent in the endgame. --George Hay

[MostFamousDane]

George, the game in question was not an intricate ending: it was an elementary one in which Miki happened to have more time on the clock. The fact that he recognized this and resigned once Alex reached the time control reveals that he was not trying for counterplay, but rather for a win exclusively on time.

Winning on time is not unsportsmanlike either - time is part of the game.

[Ingo_Zachos]

Easy friends,

personally I would have resigned the one or the other game earlier, but how did Bob Geldorf sang
"...it ain't so neat to admit defeat"


Greetinx from the town of endless rain,

Ingo Zachos

[Dennis Cayton]

It wouldn't hurt to have more vocal support for Alex in the virtual stands, as the Italians heavily outnumber American viewers.

Greetings John Acker:

I am an American viewer who is rooting for Miki instead of Alex.

Therefore, any and all vocal support I could offer would go to Miki instead of Alex.

Moving on, I want to commend you for the outstanding job you are doing with your technological knowledge, which is making the viewing of this match possible.

To the best of my fading memory, what you have accompished is unprecedented and has broken new ground.

I am hoping that the viewing of this match, which you have made possible, will have a positive "ripple" effect upon the promotion of our game worldwide.

I think you are doing a great job with your YouTube videos as well.

Keep up the great work.

Best Wishes,

Dennis Cayton

[tommyc]

John Acker is doing a great service to draughts by his technology and it has to my mind been a good advertisement in the promotion of the game.I concur with Denis Cayton on this well done John........................myself and my brother do video weddings and receptions and what John has done is the start of something big i feel.From small acorns grow tall trees!!.Well done JA.

[MostFamousDane]

George, the game in question was not an intricate ending: it was an elementary one in which Miki happened to have more time on the clock. The fact that he recognized this and resigned once Alex reached the time control reveals that he was not trying for counterplay, but rather for a win exclusively on time.

Winning on time is not unsportsmanlike either - time is part of the game.

I disagree. It's one thing to win a drawn position on time, but to play out a lost position for 15 moves for no other reason is not befitting a would-be champion.

Why ?

[MostFamousDane]

Because it shows a lack of respect for Alex, and privileges procedural "wins" over skill.

So you don't consider time management to be a skill ? The quality of your chosen moves don't depend on how much time you spend on them ?

I don't think it has anything to do with respect - ALL players makes mistakes including Alex. If a player is in time trouble then that player has shown lack of skill in failing to do proper time management or simply made the strategic choice of spending more of the allocated time in the beginning to get an advantage. The other player may have made the strategic choice of saving some time for the ending possibly getting a worse position than he/she would have gotten if he/she had spent more time. The other player having saved time should not be excluded from using his/her time trying to draw a weak/lost position or win a drawn position because of the other players bad time management.

I find the idea that one should simply resign because of the other players time trouble quite ridiculous. I quite often have the opposite problem of having spent way to little time so I guess I should just ask for a draw every time I fall into a shot because it wasn't for lack of skill since time management is not skill .

In the game yesterday Alex had several pieces to crown and the fact that he was in time trouble just made it more reasonable for Miki to play on since it was more likely that Alex would make a mistake.