Format must be the same we used for USA vs UK & I - Scheveningen system (for team matches) where every member of one team plays with all members of other teams.
Number of playable days - 6, Monday-Saturday
Number of boards ... 15 or 16.
For 16 players: 6 playable days, 4 days - 6 games (3 rounds), 2 days - 4 games (2 rounds). Short days (2 rounds) could be 1st and last day.
If we have 15 members - one extra short day (2 rounds) will be in the middle. Raising numbers of players more than that (16) will be very physically challenging for everyone.
Time ... maybe spring break at the end of March ... or summer ?
Location ... any volunteers ???????????????
All "domestic expances" (accomodation and food) for American team if we travel to Europe must be covered by organisers. So - financial pressure and pain will be evenly divided I think most or all members of American team would agree to stay in double bed room ... so we need only 8-10 rooms.
More later ...
Captain of American team
Alex Moiseyev
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A) World Champion Class:
1. GM Michele Borghetti, Italy
2. GM Sergio Scarpetta, Italy
3. GM William Docherty, Scotland/France ( a true European with Scottish roots and French seedlings)
B) World Class:
4. GM Shane McCosker, Ireland
5. GM Hugh Devlin, Ireland
(6. GM Richard Pask, England)
7. GM Raivis Paegle, Latvia
8. Matteo Bernini, Italy
(9. Mario Fero, Italy)
C) Grandmasters & Strong IM`s:
10. IM Oleksandr Kolin, Ukraine
(11. GM Tom Watson, Scotland)
(2. GM Jimmy Grant, Scotland)
13. IM John McElhone, Ireland
14. IM Rawle Allicock, England
15. IM Sean Cronin, Ireland
16. IM Myles Hannigan, Ireland
17. GM Paolo Faleo, Italy
18. IM Michael Shashai. Israel
19. IM Igor Martynov, Germany
20. Jiri Sysel, Czech Republic
21. IM Filip Kareta, Czech Republic,
22- IM Mirco de Grandis, Italy
23. IM Roberto Tovagliaro, Italy
24. Cesare Flavone, Italy
25. Claudio Ciampi, Italy
26. Alessio Scaggiante, Italy
27. IM Garrett Owens, Ireland
Pask is inactive, and Fero ppl. not much interested, but given he would show up he is as strong as Miki or Sergio very soon and at least as good as Shane or Matteo.
GM`s Watson and Grant would be senior members.
No-one mentioned Raivis Paegle, yet he scored very well after a bad start in Beijing 2008 (Bronce Medal!), and also Jiri Sysel and Alessio Scaggiante had no mention, but they are good, much better then many think. Both would have done well in Lille or at the US Nationals.
Greetinx from cloudy Germany,
Ingo
PS: Also Petraitis, Papoulovas, Pat Breen. Dobbins,George Miller, Edwards, Harwood and a few strong Italians can be considered. In general almost any player that scores 50 percent or more at the Championships in Italian Dama would ppl. be good enough to have outscored any team member of the losing team at the 2005 International Match, except Hugh Devlin.
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OK, I see some work initiated and started seriously which is good thing. Lets stick into 16 members so far. I like Ingo list and already have very, very preliminary agreement of Clint Olsen, Canada, to be on North American team and travel to Europe on his own expance if selected. I have to talk now with Ron King, Barbados (no kidding !) and Earl Morrison, Canada.
We can have 16 permanent boards but number of members on teams could be vary and bigger than that, lets say 20 or more and some players will be rotated during match ... some players play all 16 games, other - little bit less than that.
I have very little doubts, guys, that you have no problem to form dream team. Most important thing is - location and some money to cover Amerian team "domestic expances".
Compromise solution - each member of European team contribute approximately 500 EURO !!! Really, no kidding ..., this is solution on low profile due to our poverty It may still give us a chance to make it real.
You can withdraw if thats what you want,but everyone pays for themselves.Theres no way im going to ask our boys to pay 500 of your fares. So my comment was right enough draught players are a miserly lot..............and who is the biggest of em all................???
If you cant afford a team then forget it,this is no charitable organisation.
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It has been traditional in these matches for host country to offer something to the visiting team, such as in terms of accommodation expenses. But I am not claiming here how much that dollar amount-pe-person should be, and I realize not every member has the financial means to contribute. Unlike the past, we now have Gene Lindsay I.M. fund. Not sure how much is available here -- maybe 3000 euros, since I don't believe we have ever tapped into fund yet. Even with this, I also suspect airfare expenses, etc. will keep several good players away from participating in match. Plus there is also need to assist referees' expenses for all the work they do. There is a ACF Store donation button for an International Match fund, in case any onlookers wish to help.
Rich, I already fired Tommy and send an offer to another European Team Captain whom I selected. It's hard and painful to speak with clowns and non-responsible people.
I have agreement of approximately 10 North American players to travel and pay for tickets and now we are pushed to pay all expenses to the end, including food and accomodation. This is not acceptable.
They have to do their job and I hope new person will be more successful.
When in 2004 I proposed Barbados people play GAYP match, they were very interested and we worked together trying to find compromise sollution. They did excellent job and our hotel expances were covered and we played in professional building in downtown (bank).
If Europeans want to prove that match will not be one side (like 2001 and 2006) - they should do something ... anything to make it happened.
This European v Usa was MY idea initally so you dont fire the BOSS, now get off yur high horse .Im afraid i dont give in to DEMANDS such as they were.If you wanted to reach compromise you went about it like a "bull in a china shop" those tactics dont sit with me.
Im not dealing with a silly hothead like you so ,forget the whole thing and go beg somewhere else.!!
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I think most or all members of American team would agree to stay in double bed room ... so we need only 8-10 rooms.
It may still give us a chance to make it real.