Pennsylvania/District 3 Tournament

[Alex_Moiseyev]

Alex, Do you mean prizes? John.

Yes, sorry for English error.

[Alex_Moiseyev]

To clarify, the Dan Frank fund contributed $50 to the prize fund.

From $10,000 (or close) principal this appear as 0.5% annual return.

[Jay H]

To clarify, the Dan Frank fund contributed $50 to the prize fund.

From $10,000 (or close) principal this appear as 0.5% annual return.

Yes, that sounds about right; Rich would have the exact figures. The payout was also distributed among all the players, though a couple chose to donate their prizes into next year's fund.

It's all good

Regards,

Jay H

[ae_ted]

This discussion points to the weakness and misguided direction the ACF has taken and is currently taking. The ACF does not have rules or even jurisdiction of state titals or tourns. There is no SET STANDARDS for state tourns and for that matter many states do not even recognize the ACF. We all wonder why the ACF is in the state that it is and the above post are very reveling. The ACF is without structure or standards. Compared to chess we are a pitiful group. From our rules and regs to the way we treat young players and women; it is any wonder to me that we still have the 75 to 150 active players we still do. I wont even get into how and where the moneys are kept and accounted for in the ACF. Might consider disbanding(what to do with the money where ever and whoever is in control..good luck with that) and starting over from the state level out. So much for that....but the above post really does point out the glaring problems the ACF has had in the past and currently still has.

[Jay H]

So much for that....but the above post really does point out the glaring problems the ACF has had in the past and currently still has.

LOL!!! Wow, you got all of that out of my post....



Regards

Jay H

[ae_ted]

WOW ok to clarify........ I was talking about ALL the above posts, yours included, but you do bring up another point quite well. As you clearly show, the ones left at ACF, quickly jump to degrade other people. But I am a old coot with broad shoulders...so jump on to these shoulders and let your rant go. So to make my first post easier for you to understand, I was stating that I personally think the rules and the way tours are run leave a LOT to be desired and as far as ACF money..... well I am glad mine is not handled by ACF.

[jaguar72]

Compared to chess we are a pitiful group.

No we are not.

If you've followed the troubles of the US Chess Federation (USCF) over the past several years (absolutely vicious lawsuits and countersuits costing thousands upon thousands of dollars, allegations of financial impropriety, declining membership, monumental infighting among the elected board board members, and many other things) we actually look pretty good and certainly more civilized.

Checkers simply needs to be revitalized and somehow lose its completely undeserved reputation of being a game for only "children and old men" (quote from Dr. Jonathan Schaeffer). I realize this is a recognized problem (Pask even mentions it in Starting Out in Checkers) and there are, I guess, reasons for it, but I don't have any workable, realistic ideas on how to change the game's image. I wish I did...checkers certainly deserves orders of magnitude more respect than it gets.

V/R,
Gary jenkins/jaguar72

[Jay H]

WOW ok to clarify........ I was talking about ALL the above posts, yours included, but you do bring up another point quite well. As you clearly show, the ones left at ACF, quickly jump to degrade other people. But I am a old coot with broad shoulders...so jump on to these shoulders and let your rant go. So to make my first post easier for you to understand, I was stating that I personally think the rules and the way tours are run leave a LOT to be desired and as far as ACF money..... well I am glad mine is not handled by ACF.

I ain't degrading anyone, ya old coot ......and I have no rant.........I just wanted to see Dan Frank's name mentioned as a contributor to the PA Tourney fund.
My wishes have been granted.......
Perhaps you should consider running for ACF President, shake up what you perceive to be these undesirable rules and the way the tournaments are run....????

Regards,

Jay H

[Alan Millhone]

Hello Jay :

You bring up a good point about others running for an ACF Office the next election. It would be nice to see others ( with viable ideas) run for an exec. position,etc.

Sincerely:
Alan Millhone, President
American Checker Federation