WMSG Lille 2012

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Ingo_Zachos wrote:As all top boards are electronic boards,
WCDF still looking at all corners for $500 ? :)
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Alex_Moiseyev wrote:
Ingo_Zachos wrote:As all top boards are electronic boards,
WCDF still looking at all corners for $500 ? :)
500 Euros each plus Software developement, plus clocks for that boards, plus transport costs, as 10 electronic boards do not fit in my luggage. For Lille digital clocks and table cards and board cards plus laptop already caused exra wheight for me, and the pieces, boards and flaggs for others.

I know dreams and plans are limitless, but reality is that the WCDF just began to buy equipment, uses borrowed clocks and if we increase the fees many not only in the ACF would simply ask their federation to leave the "expensive" qnd "useless" WCDF, as they did many times in the past.
And if we actually spent all of our money we have, as you suggest, what would remain for the next events?
I do not like deficit spending, so some financial cushion is reasonable, but it would not be enough to buy a house or hire professional referees, not even enough to pay travel costs for the referees or to organize and fund Olympic games. The cushion is actually a discount shop cushion.

It seems that I have to play a role that I hate, and that is to spoil the party by simply asking to be modest.

A few more federations that join the WCDF, a postive developement in membership in most federations, more juniors in our youth world championship would be already very much.

Electronic boards are great gadgets, no question, but the 1st step was to organize QT`s and WCM. In the last 10 years the WCDF, with generous and much appreciated help by the IDA, ACF, FID and other member federations had managed that.
And some even were heavily critisized for conditions, funding, bad referees and bad organization that they probably will not dare to stage a bid again.


And I think despite heavy critism, disputes, financial crises and declining membership in traditional Checker/Draughts Countries the WCDF has had modest success in modernizing and structering the Checkerworld that now looks different then 10 years ago, when national federations were isolated islands, though we also must be pround of the history and tradition of our game.


Now it is time to get some infrastructure like equipment, software, a laptop, flaggs, table cards and other less expensive, but more necessary items like electronic boards, so that we can offer the FMJD or IMSA or a federation that bids to organize a QT something and that the WCDF is not as dependend on others as it is now, and might even lend a helping hand in say providing regular boards for our QT`s and World Championship Matches.



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Ingo_Zachos wrote:but the 1st step was to organize QT`s and WCM.
What about WCM ?

Did WCDF putted any penny, found any bids or sponsors ? We have to give here a giant credit to WCDF Vice President Dr. Richard Beckwith who was involved in organising several past matches, but I think mainly he acted on his own.

And ... yes, we also shouldn't forget two cancelled world title matches in 2007 (man) and 2009 (woman) where WCDF played some role.
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Akex,

1. the bids are made by the match hosts to the WCDF, the WCDF makes no bids. Understoood? It is years now u had time to learn this, but to no avail. The IOC does not host the Olympics, and the WCDF not host the QT or WCM, it is that simple. And as sad above, the money is limited anyway.

2. Yes, the WCDF tried to get these matches and others going, but finally organizers failed or the player withdrew or the WCDF had to make a decision as one player refused to play for various reasons.
That is one of the the reasons why the Berdiyeva - Rosso match will be the last Women Match, while from 2012 on the Women`s WC is determined in a tournament. And in each case the WCDF had the unpleasant task to decide in cases of failed matches.
In the years prioir to 2003, we had national fedrations quarelling for decades who was the rightful title holder in some cases...

3.True, in many cases individuals did a lot to save the matches, not just Richard. In his case I admire how many time he spent for organizing Checkers and still plays in Qualifiers and wins them.

And also the work of the WCDF is done by individuals. Individuals who pay their trips, spent a lot of time for organizing, meetings, getting into contact, etc. I wonder what is wrong with that? Do you wish them to leave? I really dont see your point at all. If all individuals stop working, who does the work?

And, yes, the WCDF is a federation of federatrions that are associations of individuals. And , as Sune once said, you are the WCDF so to speak.


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To get back to the actual topic,

here is a video clip from one of the tiebreak sessions in draughts 100:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKatDQH ... ature=plcp

Also the other clips of that thread show some impressions from the Wolrd Mind Sport Games.


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Ingo_Zachos wrote:I really dont see your point at all. If all individuals stop working, who does the work?
Ingo, privet !

My point is simple - stop talking and START WORKING :idea: 10 years in business is enough time to get experience. I hope new WCDF administration which will be elected in Lille, meet better our expectations and dreams.

Specifically we have to focus on electing a right President (I have some opinion but hold it until elections) and invite to WCDF new members - our Italian friends.
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Unexpected shot !!!

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2nd World Mind Sport Games"[Round "6"]
Tansykkuzhina Tamara-Wu Mei-jhi 0-2

1. 32-28 17-22
2. 28x17 12x21
3. 34-29 7-12
4. 40-34 11-17
5. 45-40 6-11
6. 50-45 1-6
7. 31-26 20-24
8. 29x20 15x24
9. 37-31 10-15
10. 41-37 2-7
11. 34-30 18-22
12. 38-32 12-18
13. 43-38? 22-28 !!
14. 32x1 8-12
15. 1x20 14x41
16. 46x37 21-27
17. 31x22 17x50 +
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Yes Alex,

the shot was a very unpleasant surprise for white, and Wu Mei-Jhi received many congratulations for it the whole day long.
At the top many players rely on thier strenghts in rapid and blitz games to gain some extra points, so a win at the top boards can catapulte a player from 10th to 2nd place, like our German GM Vadim Virnyi did.

In Checkers, with our more traditional scoring, we will hopefully see more bllod at the top boards, like in Beijing.
But maybe I am wrong, as I always have been a bad prophet.

Yersterday I met the first players. Irma Bejashvili is here to play in chess and Nadiya and Oleksandr from the Ukraine came in. Jim Morrison is here, but I failed to meet him yesterday or the day before at the venue or at sightseeing.

The room is crowded right now, as draughts 64 begin to play their first round today.

Our tables are blank right now, but tomorrow we will set sails for the 2nd WMSG competition in Checkers,


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Are there any results yet?
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The tournament doesn't start until tomorrow!

How come you aren't here Michael ? - you are missed!!

Lille is a nice charming little city - enjoying myself sofar!
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Work and Army have a lot of my time during the summer but next year I retire from the Army.
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I certainly plan to play in European checker tournaments.
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1st rounds pairings of the WMSG are now available:

Men:

http://www.chessarbiter.com/turnieje_wa ... ing&1.html

Women:

http://www.chessarbiter.com/turnieje_wa ... ing&1.html


We have 20 men and 6 women and the round already started.

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Very big intrigue - according tournament table 20 players are tie for 1st place !
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My prediction, Mr. Borghetti will be coming for Alex's title when tournament is over.
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