1. 11-16 22-18 2. 7-11 18-15
someone played that against me in a tournament
does it even draw? or is it just similar to one of those hard openings
crazy opening
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Re: crazy opening
Patrick, the move 18-15 is not a part of opening, and is only very suspicious crossboard innovation. Actually this opening is very weak for red. Even if this move, 18-15 doesn't lose - it puts white into very critical situation.
Without thinking much - I would immediately run off pieces by attacking man on 15 (through 11), and at the end enjoy very promising position.
3-move deck generates many uneven debutes, and on many occasions, when strong side gives up on advantage - maybe another way to vary from PP
Forget about this move, and if someone plays this against you - enjoy the moment. Did you win that game ?
Regards,
Alex
Without thinking much - I would immediately run off pieces by attacking man on 15 (through 11), and at the end enjoy very promising position.
3-move deck generates many uneven debutes, and on many occasions, when strong side gives up on advantage - maybe another way to vary from PP

Forget about this move, and if someone plays this against you - enjoy the moment. Did you win that game ?
Regards,
Alex
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Re: crazy opening
I had it on IYT once.
I found the following refutation:
1. 11-16 22-18
2. 7-11 18-15
3. 10x19 24x15
4. 11x18 23x24
5. 9x18 26-22
6. 2-7 22x15
7. 7-11 30-26 (1)
8. 11x18 26-22
9. 3-7 22x15
10. 7-11 31-26
11. 11x18 26-22
and now
12. 18-23! 27x18
13. 16-19 and black is winning.
(1) 7.- 31-26
8. 11x18 26-22
9. 3-7 22x18
10. 7-11 30-26 is just a transposition.
So the easiest plan : to stick to the material does not work exactly, but you get a breaktrough at the end.
Unless you show me something new in this line I regard it as losing.
Greetinx from still winter-cold Dortmund, Germany
Ingo Zachos
I found the following refutation:
1. 11-16 22-18
2. 7-11 18-15
3. 10x19 24x15
4. 11x18 23x24
5. 9x18 26-22
6. 2-7 22x15
7. 7-11 30-26 (1)
8. 11x18 26-22
9. 3-7 22x15
10. 7-11 31-26
11. 11x18 26-22
and now
12. 18-23! 27x18
13. 16-19 and black is winning.
(1) 7.- 31-26
8. 11x18 26-22
9. 3-7 22x18
10. 7-11 30-26 is just a transposition.
So the easiest plan : to stick to the material does not work exactly, but you get a breaktrough at the end.
Unless you show me something new in this line I regard it as losing.
Greetinx from still winter-cold Dortmund, Germany
Ingo Zachos
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Re: crazy opening
i did win in the ending
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Re: crazy opening
maybe this is what happened
when i write the numbers down during a game sometimes i write red numbers down for both sides or skip my opponents moves and dont write them down at all....
but this probably a close enough guess
1. 11-16 22-18 2. 7-11 18-15 3. 10x19 24x15 4. 11x18 23x14 5. 9x18 26-22 6. 2-7 22x15 7. 7-11 30-26 8. 11x18 26-22 9. 3-7 22x15 10. 7-11 31-26 11. 11x18 26-22 12. 18-23 27x18 13. 16-19 18-15 14. 19-23 22-18 15. 23-26 25-22 16. 8-11 15x8 17. 4x11 29-25 18. 6-10 18-14 19. 10x17 21x14 20. 1-6 32-27
when i write the numbers down during a game sometimes i write red numbers down for both sides or skip my opponents moves and dont write them down at all....

1. 11-16 22-18 2. 7-11 18-15 3. 10x19 24x15 4. 11x18 23x14 5. 9x18 26-22 6. 2-7 22x15 7. 7-11 30-26 8. 11x18 26-22 9. 3-7 22x15 10. 7-11 31-26 11. 11x18 26-22 12. 18-23 27x18 13. 16-19 18-15 14. 19-23 22-18 15. 23-26 25-22 16. 8-11 15x8 17. 4x11 29-25 18. 6-10 18-14 19. 10x17 21x14 20. 1-6 32-27