Switchers

[Jay H]

Greetings All,
Michael, I believe, originally referred to his game as "a switcher "( And still has in the edited title of the thread).....not a game on the switcher.
Alex, in a valient attempt to
" ...be accurate with terminology, because if Masters don't do this - we lose our history and heritage and leave young generation with nothing in the past."

.....posted that......

" This opening ( 9-13 21-17 5-9) doesn't have a name Switcher. If I am wrong, please, correct me. Only GAYP opening 11-15 21-17 9-13 can be named as Switcher.



Seems like the notion may indeed be that 21-17 as second move to any opening move may be "a switcher line", as Michael initially believed.
But,as Alex proposed The Switcher opening is universally known as 11-15, 21-17, 9-13...

An interesting debate....



Regards

Jay H
And again, thanx for the games !!

[Patrick Parker]

1. 9-13 21-17 2. 5-9 25-21 3. 11-15 29-25 4. 9-14

that doesnt become switcher?

[Michael Holmes]

Alex, you said that you were going to post something on the second game. I would like to see your comments on it.
Thanks,
Michael

[Michael Holmes]

[Event "2008 AL 11-15 21-17 9-13"]
[Date ""]
[Black "Michael Holmes"]
[White "Ed King"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. 11-15 21-17 2. 9-13 25-21 3. 8-11 30-25 4. 4-8 24-20 5. 5-9 17-14 6. 9x18 23x14 7. 10x17
21x14 8. 6-10 {15-18 first is a win. It is certainly stronger than this move.} 14-9
{27-23 first draws but after this red keeps the win all the way.} 9. 10-14 9-5 10.
2-6 25-21 11. 15-18 22x15 12. 11x18 29-25 13. 6-9 26-23 14. 8-11 28-24 15. 13-17 24-19 16.
17-22 19-15 17. 22x29 15x8 18. 18-22 8-4 19. 29-25 23-19 20. 9-13 4-8 21. 7-11 8x15 22.
22-26 31x22 23. 25x11 1-0

[MostFamousDane]

Hi Michael

11-15 21-17 9-13 25-21 8-11 30-25 4-8 24-20 5-9 28-24 {17-14 loses although kingsrow prefers it} 15-19 24-15 10-19 23-16 12-19 27-23 19-24 23-18 1-5 26-23 8-12 32-28 24-27 31-24 6-10 23-19 10-14 17-10 7-14-23 21-17 12-16 19-12 11-15 17-14 9-18 24-19 15-24 28-19 23-26 22-15 26-31 15-11 13-17 25-21 3-7 21-14 7-16-23 drawn

[Michael Holmes]

I have completely turned away from the computer sources as my #1 pick. Especially with the 8-piece evaluating the opening move 9-13 as a negative 1 and so-on. I only use them now as a confirmation of lines I want to play rather than the strength of it. I use what others have said in book or what my personal experience and knowledge leads me to belief. The computer only confirms a few things to me.....win, loss, or draw!

Yes, I did notice the draw that you had pointed out but also found many weaknesses in it too. These complex positions require too much analysis to include in brief summaries and to be honest I only look at the ideas for the most part.

[JR Smith]

I don't know nothing about checkers because I've never spent the time, but I do respect and enjoy watching Masters play. I understand from hearing different Master players reference 1115 2117 913 2521 811 as Switcher or James Wyllie's Switcher. 913 2117 59 E on H "The 59 Switcher" and 913 2117 69 J on F "The 69 Switcher"