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I remember another story with currency in 2007. When Barbados bid came onto table, organisers proudly reported that the cash price is 6,000 DOLLARS. I asked immediately Hugh - are we talking about USA dollars or Barbados dollars. Hugh assured me that this sum $6,000 is in USA dollars. However I pushed him to address this exact questions to organisers. Hugh didn't want to do this, but I continue asking for clarification.

Finally he asked them and we learned that they mentioned Barbados dollars (!!!) which is corresponding to US dollars as 1:2 and in reality it was $3,000 US :lol:

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The more I read about the handling of the negotiations for this match the more convinced I become that the fault for the failure of the match to take place lies not at the door of the contestants, but firmly at the door of the WCDF. If the WCDF now takes the soft option of disqualifying Jan, instead of facing up to its responsibilities,I think a great injustice will have been done.



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[quote="liam stephens"]The more I read about the handling of the negotiations for this match the more convinced I become that the fault for the failure of the match to take place lies not at the door of the contestants, but firmly at the door of the WCDF. If the WCDF now takes the soft option of disqualifying Jan, instead of facing up to its responsibilities,I think a great injustice will have been done.


Whats the betting they will take "the SOFT option Liam "???/..........Id say money "on" ....in all probability.

Altho my first instinct from the beginning was the assumption you have just now arrived at Liam, but then i had the "inside track" KNOWLEDGE of some of the personalities involved from within our own North West Draughts Federation here, and sad to say that Federation now seems to be in disarray also due to some bad decision making (or failing to make the tough decisions ) and there is a common thread running thru both cases. So i doesnt surprise me at all.

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It should be conspicuously obvious that the WCDF does not know what its elbow is doing from its buttocks, to use a crude but appropriate expression. Ingo Zachos was unaware of the fact that Jan Mortimer had been forfeited and only became aware of it through this forum!
This is absolute evidence that Ingo had no say in the decision to default Jan. How many members of the WCDF committee were involved in the decision – perhaps just the one!
The truth always comes out in the end……………..

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Ingo,You sent me two links on the overall picture of Turkmenisten,but they gave no detail on monetary policy.I even rang our foreign office at one stage,but they were unsure.Turkmenisten is an unknown country in New Zealand,very few people visit there.There is no New Zealand embassy there,the closest being in Moscow.
Besides it wasnt really about the manat,it was about taking money,any money out of the country,as there were no direct guidelines on it.
The last reply i sent to the WCDF with regards to the next date of 10-14 August,i sent to you also.It stated that you lot had made it impossible for me to even contemplate going over to Turkmenisten,because of the below conditions.Was that a direct refusal?I was appealing to the sanity of the WCDF,which appears they have none.The next thing i know im forfeited.

I am asking a forfeit of this match against the Dudeyovs,as it being the
unfairest and most biassed match in the history of draughts.
a)Hojas threatening emails to me,which caused me great distrust and
confusion.
B)The grossly unfair decision that i could only claim my expenses in
arrears,and have to go "cap in hand" to Hoja at the airport.
C)The complete failure of the WCDF to address or even recognize the problems
of exporting currency from Turkmenisten
D)The failure of the WCDF to properly follow up my acceptance of the 15th
June offer
6)The continued later offers you are now pursueing,with nothing firm in
place,which makes me unable to accept.
7) I have asked for a venue in a neutral country,after the mess of the
Turkmenisten offer,and it has gone on deaf ears with the WCDF.
8)The ridiculous time frame youve given me to get over to Turkmenisten to
play.
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Ingo,
How can I be a liar when I am stating facts? My previous message correctly pointed out that you did not know that Jan had received a forfeit until several days later. How can you possibly deny this after making a statement in this chain which made it clear that you knew nothing about the forfeit. Read your own message to see this is the case! You stated that no player has received a forfeit yet, or words close to that end. By making such a statement it became absolutely obvious that you were not involved in the decision to forfeit Jan Mortimer.
Do not call me a liar as I am no such thing. I seek the truth and nothing but the truth so far as this matter is concerned.
I invite readers to examine the post in this chain wherein you clearly knew nothing about the forfeit. I then invite readers to compare it with your previous post. The contradiction is obvious.
On the 30th July Ingo Zachos wrote as follows:
"Dear Liam,

thx for your opinion, but the trurt is that no player has been forfeited yet.

greetinx from sunny Dortmund, Germany

Ingo Zachos,
member of the WCDF executive baord"

"No player has been forfeited yet." These are the words which prove my point beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I rest my case...........................................
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This is an example of the dialoque with Ingo,that i have experienced right through negotiations with the WCDF.When i say i never refused,or when i talk about conditions,it falls on deaf ears,and there is no reasoning about anything.John Guetta,secretary of the New Zealand Draught Federation got the same response with the same kind of not listening reply.every time.I have never refused(for probably the 100th time,)i have protested against the unreasonable conditions of the match,asking for more clarity so i could say yes.All i ever wanted was to play this match.
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Ingo,
It is a FACT that you clearly did not know that Jan had received a forfeit from the WCDF until you read of it on this forum. Your message to Liam (pasted in my previous message ) proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. Why then are you claiming otherwise?
The case that you DID NOT serve on the WCDF committee which defaulted Jan has been proved absolutely.
My assumption that one person served to default Jan is therefore not an unnatural one.

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What is important for me in this story - get my motion through. I am trying to do this for years and as a cautious optimist :lol: still hope.

All after all - I would like to congratulate Amangul and Durdyev family for retaining a Woman GAYP title.

One match is over, another is on the way ! Time for unity and time for thinking how we can improve things.

In 2007 with 3-moves World Title Match and in 2009 with Ladies GAYP Title Match decision were not made by one person. With very limited ability to handle things without money WCDF keeps firmly control on at least one important thing - having a right of "final word" on title. I really don't know if it's good or bad, but if this goes away, then we have very little to remain.

Noone can be above the law.

Ingo, you right that the fate of matches mainly depends on players, not rules. However, clearly written rules and regulations can prevent situation which happened or at least minimize impact.
kiwinurse wrote:All i ever wanted was to play this match.
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Ingo,
Allow me to ask this one simple question. Did you or did you not serve on the WCDF committee which decided to default Jan?
I look forward to your answer.................. A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Ingo,
It is useless to address you as the subject upon which I requested an answer is evidently beyond your ken I regret to say.
The fact that you could not, or would not, answer my simple question is demonstrative of the poor state of the WCDF.
I say, once again, that it is hardly surprising that Jan Mortimer failed to receive satisfactory answers to the important questions she put to the WCDF.


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