Weak Position with a Strong Move for Checkers

[jaguar72]

You can downplay 1/0 all you want but after you have played almost every line you play 100,000 times.... it is all memorization so there is no need to play slow... so then it becomes whoever can move the fastest. To be successful in 1/0 in Kurnik you MUST be a good players because we can finish the games easy in a minute... you cannot just move fast like John is implying.

Perhaps I'm missing something, Eric, but aren't you contradicting yourself here (underlined portions above)?

V/R,

Gary Jenkins/jaguar72

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[Eric Strange]

Well said Nick..


as far as contradicting myself.... No... you have to be both fast and skilled to play 1/0 in kurnik..... when 2 very good players go against each other and it becomes a draw then u have to rely on ur speed to win...
Me and Kevin Burkes were about even and in the low top 10 kurnik players.... Chee who is top 5 or 6 beat Michael Holmes playing his slow timer in 3-move.... and didn't just beat him... but beat him 8-2... you can fight with offline play is different but I have played offline a couple times and I find it to be a lot easier than online. But this is not what I wanted to get into in this thread... I wanted to get into using money for advertising for checkers instead of just paying into prize funds and see what happens!!!!

[ae_ted]

smiling.........
the above posts reflect the gap between the ACF and current online players and even between segments of the ACF. Each segment seems to consider itself the only legitamite form of checkers. ACF only is currently supporting real tourns and even ACF seems to be forgetting some of its older forms of recognition. WE should be supporting all forms of the game in order to grow.

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[Alex_Moiseyev]

Blitz championship round among two players should be a mini-match of 10 games:

2 games with time control 10 minutes to each player
2 games with time control 8 minutes to each player
2 games with time control 5 minutes to each player
2 games with time control 3 minutes to each player
2 games with time control 1 minute to each player + 3 sec increment

... or something similar.

And indeed - winner take all

Does anyone is interested to pay $500 or $1,000 in front and play for ... lets say $50,000 or $100,000 first prize ? Players shall play Olympic knock off system.

I am thinking seriously now about the possibility to organise such event.

Alex

[BillyBoy]

This is a very interesting topic and surely needs to have a catagorie for debate. But Eric wanted this to be more about prize fund money and getting new players to the game. Nick you mentioned you will take Jolt Fredo and Ray over any major players? Jolt did compete in New York I was told and placed last but nobody really knows it cause he keeps his name private with only his friends knowing. There is not any kind of ploy to get online players to play and prove themselves it factors under common sense. Nobody really gives glory to those who only play online. To be put in simple terms its like taking the training wheels off of a bike. Billy

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[Alex_Moiseyev]

Hey Nick,

you can't say now that you don't have a book ! I gave you Sixth and Alan Millhone also gave you something. I don't think that not reading a books is something you really need to be proud of. Book save you alot of time, otherwise your knowledges are limited to what Jolt played with you LOL

Online play is a great training tool and in the past several years I always come to kurnik before playing in all important events at all calibres.

Before National 2010 and world title match 2009 I also re-visited Kurnik several times.

I don't have any problems losing games to these kids because it tells me immediately where my weaknesses are coming from. Several times online play forced me to work and develop some cooks which I used with success in real ty's.

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[tommyc]

Hello Nick...............i agree with alot that yu say BUT.............im afraid yur strategy in yu way will only take yu so far up the ladder and will never make yu a top master player like King or Moiseyev.

If your target is top 1/0 online player then fine you may achieve world champ status online but thats as far as your dream goes.
But online does lock you in to playing so thats a good thing and im sure as yu mature you will get the bug to beat top masters at their game,and go all the way........at least thats the hope.

[Eric Strange]

You guys needa lay off Nick a little bit.

He has only been playing for a year... or less. every month he is getting better and constantly challenges the players who kill him in Kurnik so he can get better. Fredo, Jolt, Ray, Max, Chee and others who play online have been playing since around 2000 so I'd say nick is doing pretty good for less than a years experience. to give u guys an idea of the level on some of our better players. Clint Olson is an online player!!! Ray, Max, Chee, Jolt, and Fredo are all as good if not better than Clint.

So anyone wanna jump back on ideas of getting NEW blood into the game??

[BillyBoy]

Hi Nick, You have alot of good logic I totally agree you surely need to have a good end game to play 1/0 games. And online players that play often are dedicated if its online or in person. But as Tommy was saying your not going to achieve to far just playing top notch minute players online. And if you do tournaments try to back away from speed games if you can. In Vegas of 07 Nationals Eric Strange was well above the Minor level winning almost all his games every round. His only loss was due to moving to fast which he mentioned. Being the fact he plays tons of blitz games he probably got into that habit and it cost him. Your going to say did it really matter well no he won anyways but its the point it could happen again and again. I dont play 1 minute games but I too have loss games in tournaments by moving to fast. I believe this game needs to be played with alot of thought involved and it will help everyone to do so. But I have to admit it is fun to watch you guys play but not a good idea to bring the speed into a tournament. Billy

[tommyc]

New Blood in checkers??...............................No one person can do this in isolation there has to a "team" mind-set to succeed.The fact that there are no coaching courses or coaches is a big minus factor.....thus team mindset is the only other solution.So i suggest you gather yourselves into "team units" and trade and share information is a good way of rising up the ranks.
Of course id want to see these young-guns in kurnik harnessed in some form or other and tailor some Tys to fit their needs. That would be a positive step and a win-win for all concerned..

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