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Re: Continuation to ACF bickering
by Steven » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:01 am

I am really shocked by Mr. Wayne Gobers lack of reading comprehension and overall negative attitude towards Chee. The Online Ratings were assembled over the course of the year and are the most accurate ranking system in the world. They are not based on flawed rating systems such as the ACF’s (no offense Tom). They are based on an unbiased observation of head to head matchups. How can it be more straightforward? Mr. Wayne Gober should be exhilarated by the generous ranking of Major that he received. Many individuals in the Online Checkers Federation believe a Minor ranking for him would be more suitable. Instead, he has lambasted Chee and demanded that his name be removed from the rankings. He states that henceforth, he will only play people he knows in online games. This is a very childish reaction and I am personally disappointed to see this behavior coming from one of the Online Checker Federations Major ranked players. I think if his behavior continues the OCF should vote on the removal and permanent banishment of Mr. Wayne Gober from their rankings.Steven

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Re: Continuation to ACF bickering
by Josh » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:40 pm

i demand to be ranked. and if i dont like my rating i wish to be taken off the ratings.Josh

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Re: Continuation to ACF bickering
by Eric Strange » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:49 pm

The way I look at it is if you choose to play at a live tournament then your ranked no matter what you say.
If you play online your ranked no matter what you say.

It is too bad that because Gober is only going to play with mostly shitty offline players he will more than likely drop to minors level. if he played better competition than what he plays now he may have made master.
I also completely disagree with the fact that Midnight is a tier above me considering I wipe the floor with him. His skill level is strictly gayp and not even that good. I vote midnight be dropped to standard master and maybe even major level.

No Gober... you do not have a choice to be removed... if you don't like it then go play on your iphone with your son and stay off of the internet.

I am also considering changing it to Internet Checkers Federation instead of Online CF ..... can I get some votes for who likes what better?Eric Strange
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Re: Continuation to ACF bickering
by Lord_Chee » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:17 pm

Tom, I ranked midnight in consideration of his performance while playing as pie, granted he had a super fast connection that particular time that helped him but as he currently is he would be weak master or even majors. I'll say midnight is better 3 move than gayp, his gayp can give guys trouble but it's too easy to adapt against.

I didn't rank Josh because I don't know his level anymore, when he played a lot he did well vs mag and me in his last appearance in kurnik.

I am just trolling those guys in ACF forum, they have this annoying "we're a special breed because we play in real tournaments" mentality. Attack anything that isn't old and backwards. You really have to play the top online players to fully respect their skill level. You can see how respectful Clayton Nash is compared to the 1100 morons, Clays familiar with the online checkers community.
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Re: Continuation to ACF bickering
by Rapor » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:23 pm

I am proud to be Master player in the eyes of Chee.

I am also a World Champion spectator in the eyes of everyone.Rapor

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There you have it folks.

Go to their forum and view their real thoughts about the ACF.

This bunch is a blight and a couple of them are in charge of ACF ratings.

Wayne Gober

[waynegober]

I second the motion the ban Wayne Gober permanately from the online Mickey Mouse Club of checkers.

Wayne Gober

[waynegober]

Did you say RESPECTABLE ??

read the above comments, you are trolling by your own admission and trying to cause trouble.

Wayne

[waynegober]

I am just trolling those guys in ACF forum, they have this annoying "we're a special breed because we play in real tournaments" mentality.

Here you go, this should make it easy for you to find.

[Jay H]

......I am just trolling those guys in ACF forum...............

Can't you guys all see you are being "worked"............For real...........



Jay "Seriously" H

[Danny_Alvarez]

Only because when I posted a serious post, bunch of clueless guys here started posting off topic ramblings.

Respectable as in the level of the game.

You are not respectable in any way, shape or form.

Let me guess... You didn't mean what you said. Gee Wizz we have never heard that one b4. You are nothing but a big troll (definition for those who do not know.troll= A person who posts intentionally provocative messages whose only purpose are to offend as many as possible and disrupt forums or newsgroups)

[waynegober]

As Chee has acknowledged himself to be a troll. I respectfully, request his bannng from this site.

As far as the ratings post goes. I don't want as an ACF member for some group to rate my online play and then come to the real Checker organization and post their ratings. Chee seems to be the sole individual who did the rating and assures us it is the most accurate in the world. He is working and using the forum to advance their little club. With a small amount of research, honest men can conclude they have no desire to advance the ACF but are solely interested in the ACF's demise and the propagation of the OCF. I take offense, and have bowed my neck. I'll see this one through to the end. Alan, you probably are unaware ,so far, of all of this. I respect and appreciate your work over the years. We need this corrected. You have approached me in time past about possibly running for ACF Pres. I would like your support should I decide to do so. However, I will see this to the end.

Wayne Gober

[Eric Strange]

This will be my very last post on ACF forums period.

We are only here to promote OCF??? is that why I have worked tirelessly to try and promote the ACF to online players??? Is this why I have been getting ACF ratings calculated and suggesting ideas to make ACF better???

Chee's purpose is not to promote OCF over ACF you close minded idiot. We been trying to get online players to come play at tournaments and offline players to come play online. Why couldn't everyone work together to make checkers bigger and better? Instead morons like yourself have to make everything a fight. We may be rude online to one another to tease for fun, but we are all friends and get along GREAT unlike people here.

You have attacked my friends and myself personally as well as trying to demean our online attempt to make checkers better. I am hereby resigning myself as a member of the ACF and suspending ratings indefinitely (I am not going to support an organization that does not support mine). I am sorry it had to come to this but I am not going to waste anymore time with your organization based on how it is and what I see it becoming (especially if Acker and Gober take over). This will make a lot of ACF members happy and be a lot less work for myself so it is a win win.

P.S. The reason many players don't go to tournaments offline is because they consider the ACF to be a joke and I am tired of trying to defend you guys.

Farewell ACF - http://cross-board.com/ratings/

-Eric Strange

[waynegober]

The reason many players don't go to tournaments offline is because they consider the ACF to be a joke and I am tired of trying to defend you guys

There you have it folks. Reading between the lines here will make all my points.

Using the ACF to promote his OCF and considering the ACF a joke.

Goodbye unscientific biased ratings...... One mission accomplished

Wayne Gober

P.S. again please remove my name from all your OCF stuff. I want no association with that association

[waynegober]

Steven said, "I think if his behavior continues the OCF should vote on the removal and permanent banishment of Mr. Wayne Gober from their rankings.Steven"

As Steven is a member in good standing with the OCF, I think he is right here. I accept the banishment.
How soon can I count on it?



Wayne

[tommyc]

Welcome back Eric...................................yu did it agggggggggain..hahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.te hee hooooooooooooo.

[Jason Solan]

I couldn't agree more Jay. It's shocking to me how many goats Chee has been able to get.
Has he said some stupid stuff? Sure, but was pretty obvious (at least to me) he was just trying to push some buttons and have a little fun. The harder he's pushed, the harder he (and others) will push back.

As much as I want this place to be
A forum about the great game of Checkers, hosted by the ACF

It's looking like it's being pushed into becoming
A forum for ACF supporters, with a dash of Checkers discussion


NOTE:
Even though I manage the site, my opinions do not necessarily reflect that of the ACF. I have no horse in this race. I make recommendations, but ultimately do as I'm told by the Executive Committee.

[Chexhero]

Chee, I think a lot of people in the ACF including me would like checkers to grow a lot. While I did not have a problem with your rankings post, the fact is other people did. While your intention may have not been to brag about online players and diminish the ACF, posting the Internet rankings like you did in an ACF forum gave some people that idea. I am thinking maybe it would have been better to post the rankings in Eric's forum, which is more for Internet players and then post a link for those ratings in the ACF forum for those that are interested to see. Some people are a bit sensitive and can take things the wrong way, especially when it is online.

[Jay H]

I couldn't agree more Jay. It's shocking to me how many goats Chee has been able to get.
Has he said some stupid stuff? Sure, but was pretty obvious (at least to me) he was just trying to push some buttons and have a little fun. The harder he's pushed, the harder he (and others) will push back.

As much as I want this place to be
A forum about the great game of Checkers, hosted by the ACF

It's looking like it's being pushed into becoming
A forum for ACF supporters, with a dash of Checkers discussion


NOTE:
Even though I manage the site, my opinions do not necessarily reflect that of the ACF. I have no horse in this race. I make recommendations, but ultimately do as I'm told by the Executive Committee.

I am a member of several other Forums, and in reality, as compared to others, Chee's trolling here is rather tame...would even be described as lame and light-weight....what makes it stand out here on the ACForum is that there is definately a "generation" gap, and the elder/more mature, well-mannered (etc.,etc.) generation IS NOT prepared to handle such trolling, and is shocked and appalled by it, and responds.....which is the absolute worst way to handle a troll. Especially one who admits, and has several times, that he is trolling .
The Fact is, we are no longer living in Mayberry with Andy.....Chee's chest thumping for Online Players, and Nick's questioning the results of the recent Illinois Ty are just a small representation of the new standards of the current generation, right or wrong, this is WHAT IT IS !!!
This is no different than the actions by any of the newer generation of competitors in any competitive endeavor......crude, brash, insulting behavior is the norm for the current generation...........
It is the eons old battle of youth vs. age,.....the tide vs. the shore.....etc.,etc. Youth WILL always win, the tide WILL eventually erode away the shore, etc., etc.
You learn how to deal with it (by ignoring/overlooking/accepting or anything other than fighting against it because you WILL NOT WIN !!) , or move on.....either way, you cannot stop it.

I will go on record here...I have no problems with this eventuality....I have learned to deal with it.
As an example, I, who was a lifelong Philadelphia Eagles fan, cannot stomach the thought of watching a single minute of one of their games. Why ? Because the players disgust me.......I am not fighting it, I know I cannot win and get these players to change their attitudes so I can "like" football again,...so, I have moved on. Feg the Eagles, they make me sick to my stomach.

Anyway.....Alan Millhone seems to know how to deal with trolling...ignore it.

Jay "Has said it before, and will again...MY LOYALTY IS FIRST AND FOREMOST TO THE GAME, and does not care how others act, if they want to act like fools, cocky, and arrogant,let them....but, when they attack the game itself, I'll be the first in line to defend it !!!" H

[Jay H]

And, PS...
I don't see anything that would warrant a banning... Chee's "trolling" is barely even trolling, more like a sport fanatic defending "his team" against another persons support of an opposing team....insults are part of this....and, after all, Chee is the one being fed.......
With that stated...I DO (STRONGLY) BELIEVE that ACForum membership should be a privilege of ACF membership.
This page does not pay for itself..it is funded by the ACF, which is supported by dues paying, card carrying members....I, personally, do not care what anyone's opinions of others are....
However, I believe that if one wishes to post thier opinions here, on the ACForum, one should help to support the forum itself by joining the ACF.