LETTER TO ACF MANAGEMENT

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Hot congratulations to Joe Moore for winning with good margin Major Division in GAYP ACF 2011 National. Second attempt (after winning PA State this year) and second success ! He just proved his level belong to Master Division and he earned right to play among best and being part of elite.

Joe used to be (and I assume he is) an active online player, but when he reached certain level he made the only logical and right move to step forward and get progress - started to play in real events.

I wish Joe all his best and predict to him outstanding brilliant checkers career - he has all skills and attitude. He did another very smart thing: bought "Sixth" - way to go and improve ! :lol:

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Thanks Alex. Not a bad tournament yourself. I look forward to seeing you again and even playing you some in the future!
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Alex_Moiseyev wrote:Hot congratulations to Joe Moore for winning with good margin Major Division in GAYP ACF 2011 National.
I too want to congratulate Joe Moore on an astounding result... well done mate!!!
Bernard Coll wrote:Wayne, I admire your tenacious stance against these louts who posturise as serious checker players on this well meaning ACF forum.
Wayne i also admire your stance against these people.... not everyone will support you, but know this, there is a few of us who will and you are doing the right thing. and i know full well that the current leaders don't have an easy task, but inertia and lack of action is not leadership. and although i admire the current ACF leaders if nothing gets done, not even an answer to my post i would be more than pleased to join the ACF and vote for you.
waynegober wrote:You are no potential ACF member CHee. You have had years to join. You don't need the ACF, remember? Your Grandstanding won't work. Your a troll and nothing more. The OCF is a handful most of who are foul mouthed, spoiled younguns. OCF is far from the future of checkers. However, the ACF can regroup, do the little things well. Realize where we are and begin to rebuild in a realistic manner.
if these morons are the future of the ACF then we better start working towards a different kind of future RIGHT NOW!!!
Chee Xiong wrote:You're asking the ACF to ban potential new ACF members, you're also asking ACF to burn bridges with the OCF and their sponsors. You're also taking away world class players that play under the OCF banner such as the warrior Max and Fredo. And you're also asking to become the president of the ACF.... if is this where offline checkers is heading then the game's days are numbered..
Don't pretend you care about checkers.... all you wanna do is upset those that DO CARE for real.... and you don't have any sponsors... the only thing you are world class at is at being a rude twit.... we all know full well that you and your friends don't care about checkers or its future... you have been predicting its downfall for years now and thats why i had disagreements with your other compadres...
checkers is here to stay and it doesn't need you or your kind !!!!
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Josh Armstrong wrote: And on another note any checker player is a potential acf member even Chee, who would probably play well in the masters if he went to a tournament. Some people do not feel the need to go to a tournament and shouldnt be criticized for that. This all started with a ranking of online players which is an accurate list of how players played online. The list angered many people because... Some players on the list dont play tournaments. Some people dont want to be associated with the list. And others dont like trash talk which has nothing to do with the list. This is ridiculous..... So obviously if people are going to be banned from this forum it should be... Me, John Acker, Wayne Gober, Chee Xiong, Danny Alvarez, Tommy Canning, Eric Strange, and Nick Addante as all of these players whether they be online or offline players have gone against the British Navy At The Dinner Table rules. If you truly believe that you deserve to stay while the others are banned then something is wrong with you.
Josh, at the height of my disagreements with you i never asked for you or others to be banned.... my solution is clean and simple, any time Chee feels the need to post lists and rankings etc etc that do not particularly pertain to the ACF .... let it be posted in broken boards....
is that asking too much??
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Josh Armstrong wrote:Considering his post was about checkers it is not in the wrong category. .
Considering his whole purpose (by his own admission on the other forum) was to troll (disrupt, annoy, and provoke others) it is in the wrong category and you know it.
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Thanks Josh, I worked really hard to make myself better so I could win it. Hopefully you can come to another tournament in the future. On your note regarding Chee's post, I think it would have been better to post internet rankings in Eric's forum since that is where the Internet players chat. Then he could have posted a link in the ACF forum stating that the internet rankings were in that forum. I dont really know Chee and maybe his intentions werent bad, but think about it, he is one guy from an online site who is posting Internet rankings in an ACF forum. He is really no official president of kurnik and online checkers is really not an official league, at least not like ACF is. Him doing what he did is going to come off to a lot of people as cocky. Someone who is bragging about online talent and perhaps implying that they can overtake the top masters in the ACF tournaments, which he has claimed. All of it is his opinion and I dont have a problem with it, but when someone says all this and doesnt actually show up to a real tournament with the other top online talent, that is not going to come off as people as a guy just trying to promote checkers, but rather someone who is out to prove online checkers and its players are superior so they can have all the glory. Another problem is this....people in online checkers can indeed be flat out rude, annoying, and can insult other people. I am more for ACF for this reason. I am young, but I do not enjoy the constant trash talking and disrespect you get from players online, which other people actually dont mind taking and just do it themselves. Some playful trash talking is actually ok with me, but personal insults that I get and listening to arrogant players brag or insult weaker checker players are not. When I come to a checker tournament, the people are very welcoming, nice, and just great people who love what they do. An older gentleman like Gober is not going to put up with the stuff you get online and as a possible future president, he would have the right to promote checkers the way he would choose to, whether it is selfish or not. That attitude that alone will turn people off to online checker players.
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I think you all guys are taking too serious Chee ranking and titles lists. They were created for fun and I have fun on it. If you are seriously argue against these lists that simply means you are taken them seriously :lol:

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Alex,

you have missed my point.

I don't want an association with this group of people. Started out just wanting my name removed.
Now, I want more. We must disagree here I suppose. Chee and friends are a very rude group and obnoxious. Anyhow, have you read all the threads?

I am not stopping on this, I want an answer from the exec. committee on what they are going to allow.

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Bernard Coll wrote:Wayne, I admire your tenacious stance against these louts who posturise as serious checker players on this well meaning ACF forum.
Thank you sir. It is gentlmen such as yourself that I love to meet and play at tournaments. We become lifelong friends and respect one another. The day that organized checkers is taken over by these foul mouthed trash talkers, is the day I have played my last organized game.

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waynegober wrote:Anyhow, have you read all the threads?
To be honest - I didn't. Do you think I should ? :lol: My name is too on this list and I won't be happy with this if I take it serious. But I don't take it serious. The only impact from this list could be - more likely It forces me seriously reduce my visits to Kurnik and now only VOG and games with small group of strong real players will be my Internet source.
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Perhaps you shouldn't. I will leave that with you to decide.
The whole story may not interest you at all and that is fine.
It does seem strange for you to reduce your time on Kurnick if you think it all in fun and don't take it serious??

However, I do expect the moderator to read them all.

Best Regards and Congrats on a good tournament,
Wayne
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waynegober wrote:
I am not stopping on this, I want an answer from the exec. committee on what they are going to allow.

Wayne Gober
Absolutely. That is only right and proper.

Stick to your guns, Wayne. Don't back down. Ever.

And, yeah, I've read all the posts...on both sites. Several times. As you know, there are much larger issues here than trolls (as annoying and distracting as they can be) that need to be resolved by the executive committee.

Very Respectfully,

Gary Jenkins/Jaguar72 (my real name and my real callsign and, yeah, I'm a real ACF member)
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Joe,

Congrats on a very fine win at the National. Your post above was good. To put up with all the nonesense on Kurnick is one thing, but to have it brought into this forum is another. And to have my name associated with it is more than I will tolerate. It is much like someone coming into my living room and to begin to trash talk my wife or family. We had one of them come into our playing room tonight several times to tell us all that only Ron, Alex, and couple others were worthy to play. The rest he used foul language to describe. He was booted several times, but continue to come back with the same message, "The ACF is dead and all the players are no good except a few at the very top". Insult us all in our own house, and then want us to stand and cheer and crown them the best of all. Chee has another nickname.... it is Lord-Chee. He has that for a reason.

anyhow, I wish you continued success in your checker journey and you and your kind offer a very bright future for checkers !!

Wayne Gober
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Chee Xiong wrote:I'm actually a pretty nice guy Gober.
Chee, I suspect his correct name is Mr. Gober
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Chee Xiong wrote:Can we get Danny banned? Guy doesn't even play checkers lol. I'm actually a pretty nice guy Gober.
The only reason you want to ban me is because i point out and don't put up with your stupidity and self-importance.
keep trying, mate. you think you are smart, just like you think you are a grandmaster...
reality is different kid, stop dreaming, get out of the matrix :)
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