uniform rules at a tournment

[ae_ted]

The 3.7 WCDF rule says:
“ If a player wishes to verify their record of a game by comparing it with that of their opponent, they must inform the tournament controller and if allowed, do it in their own playing time.”
In which case and how many times could a player check his record of the game? Could he check it in his opponent's time? Could the referee give his record of the game all the time and ignore this rule without saying a word?

The 3.10 WCDF rule says:
“Any player who fails to hand in a complete signed copy of their games at the conclusion of a round shall receive zero points for that round. ”
How many times in the history of checkers has the rule been applied?

Of course Mr. King never observed these rules, so I wonder why they were written but never applied.

Best regards
[/quote]

WOW!
If written rules are not enforced at a world title match, then what relevance is that title??? slightly more than worthless?
This is why I do not attend tournaments anymore as they are a mess when it comes to uniformity. I have stated in the past, that the best thing ACF could do would be to put out and publish formal UNIFORM guidelines for matches. Our checker community and all the different checker organizations should make it a Priority to write and publish and CERTAINLY to run a match IN COMPLIANCE with the rules under which that match is being ran. The above quote leaves me speechless. How can there be a world champion that ignores the rules of the game he is claiming to be champion of???
Also amazes me that after he brought these questions up, that no representative on ANY organization was able to clearly explain how or why this occurred. I am really amazed.
But long story short...out checker community needs DESPERATELY to ORGANIZE ITSELF.

one thing stands out in all of these discussions.......that is the almost TOTAL silence of the officers of the checker organizations. haha rant over and my ears are open....and God Bless and good checkers to all the lovers of the game out there!

[Chexhero]

At this years Nationals we will be utilizing the ratings to an extent to group players. To what extent I don't know, but it is a step in the right direction.

[Alex_Moiseyev]

At this years Nationals we will be utilizing the ratings to an extent to group players.

You are great optimist

[George Hay]

I once again turn to OMOCH for the rest of the story! In the Timeline for 1976 is an entry about the tied match of
Derek Oldbury vs Leo Levitt in the World Championship Match for the GAYP Title vacated by Tom Wiswell. The match took place in Glasgow, Kentucky, USA. The match contract stipulated a playoff in case of a tie, but Olbury was awarded the Title when Levit had to leave for business reasons.
Tom Wiswell gave up the GAYP Title under stipulation that it be kept alive. Yet Wiswell went 16 years without a title defense! Robert Stewart also went over a decade without a title defense. Also, the ACF and the EDA have recognized different World Champions at different times. So it looks to me like the WCDF is needed after all!
--George Hay

P.S. The 1976 Timeline concludes with this quote:

CHECKER TOURNEY RULES
1. The Referee is always right.
2. If the Referee is wrong, use rule 1. !
CLAYTON BEEBE

http://www.online-museum-of-checkers-hi ... index.html

[Ingo_Zachos]

Dear Ted,

Checkers is already organized. The players founded national federations like the ACF, the IDA, the EDA, the FID or the IGDD (Germany).

And these federations founded, in 2003, the WCDF or became members of the WCDF since then.

In 2008 it established the current rules to be applied at the WCDF events. Before that the rules of the country the event was played in were adopted as playing rules.

It is only because these rules were made and published that you can rightly critizse the referee for not appying them as it should be.

And you can be sure that in the next event (WMSG) in Lille, that rule is applied much more strictly.

But as Geroge Hay pointed out, a referee decision stands.


If you think the rules should be applied strictly, then plz apply as a referee to these matches and tournaments.

Any mistake that a referee makes is now blamed on the WCDF, while the many cases in which the WCDF did apply their rules went unnoticed.

Since 2004 each year a QT was held, and in most years at least one WC Match.
The last two matches were available even as a live stream.

And since 2003 more and more countries have began to adopt Checkers and joined the WCDF.

I don`t think that in any decade in any century before we had more activities on international level and more countries that hold their nationals then since 2003.

Our organization is young, weak and underfounded, but despite all odds it deliverd many events over the years and also a set of rules which is in no way perfect, but worth to be applied. If any referee fails to apply it in a single case or during one match, then dont forget that there are hundreds of games since 2008 in which it had been applied.



Greetinx from very sunny Dortmund,

Ingo Zachos

[George Hay]

For World Championship Matches, the current rule is perhaps the least bad:
6.11 In the event of a tied match the defending champion shall retain the title by virtue of being undefeated.
--George Hay

http://wcdf.wz.cz/index.htm

[Chexhero]

"You are great optimist "

I am a realist champ. Thanks to Frank Davis And don't worry Alex, we will make sure you qualify for majors, since that is what you wanted.

[Alex_Moiseyev]

we will make sure you qualify for majors

with new updated ratings it is quite possible

[tommyc]

I agree with EVERYTHING AE_TED SAID................its a shambles.There is no need for rules because the referee never applies them.So what is HE there for and what are the rules for.Ingo promises to implement them in Lille.I hope he does after the shambles of Beijing.

[tommyc]

Its pretty quiet now...................here.?

[Ingo_Zachos]

All gone to the US Nationals


Cloudy Greetinx,

Ingo Zachos

[tommyc]

Ingo, no WI-FI at the Nationals.

[tommyc]

Well thats one ray on sunshine on the horizon.............Ingo done a good job in enforcing any rule he could in LILLE.When will we see more uniformity across the board.Perhaps now MR Beckwith in in power we might see the rules doing what the were written for.Having said that i was in convo over the very same thing here where the IRISH,ENGLISH SCOTTISH WELSH Associations have NO to uniformity whatsoever?? So say if one runs a National the rules are different to another Asso. rules were last time.Its just schoolboy stuff aint it......and its called tradition.What a dirty word.!!

But fair play to Ingo he said he would and he did .............i like a man of his word.Ingo yur a star.