Home Internationals 2012

liam stephens · Post by **liam stephens** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:02 pm

Below a picture of the Republic of Ireland team:

Back row: Tom Kee, Frank Moran, Sean Phillips, Peadar Sweeney, Joe Maguire.
Front row: Garrett Owens, Bill Dobbins, Patricia Breen, John Preston, Paddy Doyle, Brendan Murray.

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liam stephens · Post by **liam stephens** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:45 am

Results were:

Winners: Northern Ireland 10 points
2nd Republic of Ireland A 7 points
3rd Republic of Ireland B 3 points
4th Great Britain 0 points

Below is a picture of the victorious Northern Ireland team:

Back row:William Mulligan, Pat Logue, Francis McNally, Shane McCosker.
Front row: Sean McElkenny, Sean McKenna, Charles McKenna, John McElhone.

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Ingo_Zachos · Post by **Ingo_Zachos** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:45 pm

Congratulations to the Nothern Irish Team.

Well done boys!

Congratulation to Ireland.

Well done boys & girl!

And I pay tribute to every player that participated, the organizers and referees.

How I wish a German team could compete

Greetinx from the sunny continent,

Ingo Zachos

Alex_Moiseyev · Post by **Alex_Moiseyev** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:53 pm

Ingo_Zachos wrote:How I wish a German team could compete

The very first thing - Germany should become a part of UK

Bernard Coll · Post by **Bernard Coll** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:24 pm

Sorry to correct you Alex. The South of Ireland is not a member of the UK. There was a time they were members of the UK by virtue of the English government of the different periods
continual refusal to give the Irish a say in running their own affairs. But in 1916 the Irish decided they were not going to be forever downtrodden by their coloniel masters and took up arms and ousted them. Maybe explains why the Great britain team fared so badly?

tommyc · Post by **tommyc** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:20 pm

Im afraid the UK/GB could hardly muster a team . i think only 5 players travelled and they were filled out with local players.But fair dues to Ian and Joan Caws great supporters of draughts this 50 yrs im sure came and played and represented GB/Scot/Wales combined. There were no Welsh or Scottish and thanks to players like John Jolliff and Brian Lucas who travelled . Local players John Preston [Dub],Andy Monteith,[Omagh]Mary Gallagher[Donegal] and W.R. Best[Tyrone] made up their numbers.They were let down by their own players really. In fact English and UK players are getting as scarce as "hens teeth". Ian Caws deserves great credit for keeping them together.

However it was the deciding drawn match game with Ire A V Ire B..........that undone the favourites and handed N.Ireland the title.Well done to all teams ...Germany??........well maybe we could accomodate them next time. What might be interesting is an All Ireland versus Italy match in the interum 4 years.Resulting in an All EUROPEAN team being chosen to take on the great Americans.Now thats food for thought and the way to go.

Bernard Coll · Post by **Bernard Coll** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Tommy, It is not surprising that there were not any Welsh players in Cookstown to participate in the internationals. Apart from John Morgan who fastidiously plays in tournaments throughout the UK and Ireland, only the late grandmaster, Bill Edwards ventured into all the UK corners to compete.
Sadly, the Welsh contingent of players of today insist that the home international tourney has to be played in Wales, usually Knighton before they will even consider mustering up a makeshift team to please the visiting teams. Possibly they only enjoy singing in the valleys?

On the other side of the coin, A once enthusiastic team of Scots always attended the Internationals in Morcambe. Morcambe was generally always seen to be a nice half-way meeting point by all competing teams. Over the years the Scots tired of then being asked of travelling the extra miles to play in a not too accessible Knighton. Knighton is a fascinating almost medieval town and the hosts always made one feel welcome. To be honest, I feel this match was a cobbled up affair. I attended the British in Bristol in May this year, where the genisis of this match in Cookstown seems to have originated at the English AGM. The Scottish players in attendance held their own meeting as to whether they would send a Scottish team, albeit not a full team. It was decided at the meeting that Scotland would not participate.

Alex_Moiseyev · Post by **Alex_Moiseyev** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:20 pm

tommyc wrote:Resulting in an All EUROPEAN team being chosen to take on the great Americans.Now thats food for thought and the way to go.

Good idea, i like it - it may erase alot of rumors and speculations and have strong promotional value Worldwide.

........ but how ??????

tommyc · Post by **tommyc** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:58 pm

Re: Home Internationals 2012
by Bernard Coll on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Tommy, It is not surprising that there were not any Welsh players in Cookstown to participate in the internationals. Apart from John Morgan who fastidiously plays in tournaments throughout the UK and Ireland, only the late grandmaster, Bill Edwards ventured into all the UK corners to compete.
Sadly, the Welsh contingent of players of today insist that the home international tourney has to be played in Wales, usually Knighton before they will even consider mustering up a makeshift team to please the visiting teams. Possibly they only enjoy singing in the valleys?

On the other side of the coin, A once enthusiastic team of Scots always attended the Internationals in Morcambe. Morcambe was generally always seen to be a nice half-way meeting point by all competing teams. Over the years the Scots tired of then being asked of travelling the extra miles to play in a not too accessible Knighton. Knighton is a fascinating almost medieval town and the hosts always made one feel welcome. To be honest, I feel this match was a cobbled up affair. I attended the British in Bristol in May this year, where the genisis of this match in Cookstown seems to have originated at the English AGM. The Scottish players in attendance held their own meeting as to whether they would send a Scottish team, albeit not a full team. It was decided at the meeting that Scotland would not participate.
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The Home Internationals was resurrected by Francie Mv N ally this year to try and keep it in vogue Bernard. True the EDA may have decided at the Brit Open to gather up a team but they were sorely let down by all accounts. In fact it was supposed to be a Cmbined ENG/SCOT/WALES team.

I can only foresee one solution and that is to see if the Italians can get a team to play versus an All Ireland team in the future.The Home Inters seem s on their last legs, if the truth be told.

Good idea, i like it - it may erase alot of rumors and speculations ...ALex.....

What rumours and speculation is that??

tommyc · Post by **tommyc** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:22 pm

Myles Hannigan was in charge of the Home Internationals a ran it with military precision despite some attempts at skullduggery and "DIRTY TRICKS" before a draught was pushed. The least said abt that the better , some people should hang their heads in "shame".But the boold TY director the afore mentioned Mr Hannigan parried with a few short sharp words and struck the insurgent down ,mortally wounded and "peace broke out never to be shattered again" and a good Ty was had by all.

liam stephens · Post by **liam stephens** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:59 pm

Below is a picture of the Ireland B/Inishowen team.

Back row: Tommy Canning, Peter Kierans, John Joe McGee, Billy Kelly, Myles Hannigan, Gerald Callaghan.
Front row: Con Boyle, Mary Gallagher, Joe Fullerton, Brian Lafferty.

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Alex_Moiseyev · Post by **Alex_Moiseyev** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:47 pm

tommyc wrote:What rumours and speculation is that??

Many Americans think we can beat Europeans easy. I don't think so. Of course we should win, no doubts, but margin will be narrow. This will stimulate and wakeup patriotic American and ACF to do something to keep a leading position in checkers for many eayrs to come.

Two-three Italian stars may help European team stay away of "one side" match, but overall average level of Eoropeans is still below ground zero

Europeans should better look at the East: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lietuva, Lithuania etc

Anyone who disagree with this is highly wanted and welcome to organise and sponsor such match ! Without match rumors and speculations are growing

Respectfully,
Alex M

tommyc · Post by **tommyc** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:59 pm

Alex you are speculating about speculation......dangerous game.Besides i think last time i looked Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lietuva, Lithuania and others were still in Europe? Never say never.

Patriotism im afraid dont win draughts games ,off the top o me head consider this............Borghetti.Bernini,Scarpetta,Devlin,Mc Cosker,Hannigan,Mc Elhone,Docherty,Watson,Young, Breen,and theres more.

What s your American line-up? Lets see how the match up.............name that tune.?

Alex_Moiseyev · Post by **Alex_Moiseyev** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:48 pm

tommyc wrote:What s your American line-up?

I opened new topic in General Section. We can go there and leave Home Internationls alone

Lindus Edwards · Post by **Lindus Edwards** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:43 am

Bernard Coll wrote:

"Tommy, It is not surprising that there were not any Welsh players in Cookstown to participate in the internationals. Apart from John Morgan who fastidiously plays in tournaments throughout the UK and Ireland, only the late grandmaster, Bill Edwards ventured into all the UK corners to compete."

Hi Bernard,

No disrespect to John Morgan but I think that during the past forty-two years I have played in far more tournaments than that good gentleman. John is a very good friend of mine and he would be the first to agree to this fact. I have lost count of the tournaments I have played in over the years,
which include the Irish Open, Welsh Open, English Open, Scottish Open, British Open, Mississippi Open, Southern States Open, the International Match of 1983 at Petal, Mississippi, numerous Clacton and Essex Open tournaments, Sam Cohen tournaments, Tom Landry Plate tournaments and goodness knows how many others.
Even as a mediocre player I think that playing in such a vast number of tournaments counts!

All the best,

Lindus.