ACF ratings

[Alex_Moiseyev]

Just one extra way for motivation.

Richard, why we still have Elbert on this list ?

Alex

[Mr. Checkers]

Alex a few points does not diminish ones accomplishments in life or in checkers. And at your age--with your talent and potential there will be many more goals in life that will become a challenge for you to accomplish, but they may not all be checker related. Food for Thought. "Mr. Checkers"

[rich beckwith]

Alex,

I usually request ratings update right before Nationals because of the seeding procedures used to minimize sandbagging.

I'm not the foremost expert on ratings calculations, but I believe ACF ratings are based on running average of last 132 tournament games. So a surprise increase in rating might be due to some "bad games" scrolling off the front end of your 132-game list?

Also, the ratings do not include recent Texas/District 8 or Southern. Patrick Parker has kindly stepped up to assist with this process and forwarded me the Texas results yesterday (with Southern coming soon), so those events should be in the next update.

Yes, deceased players are typically removed from list. Dave must have forgotten to take Lowder off. Thanks for pointing out.

[Alex_Moiseyev]

I'm not the foremost expert on ratings calculations, but I believe ACF ratings are based on running average of last 132 tournament games. So a surprise increase in rating might be due to some "bad games" scrolling off the front end of your 132-game list?

Hmmm ... maybe my lost to Michael Holmes previous year in IL ty, or poor performance in National ? I am quite active player and need 1-1.5 years "to clean" my bads. But someone with this system may need 3-5 years

One bad tournament has an influence on your rating almost half a decade WOW !!!

Alex

[bazkitcase5]

yes, Alex, its very sad indeed

I have been pushing to use the ELO system, which I believe is what the WCDF ratings uses - although in reality, the only true solution to the ratings is to have more tournaments/more games

as I mentioned on these forums before, the average player only gets 2-3 tournaments per year, which even if you include Nationals, that is only around 30-40 rounds per year - and as long as ratings are done by "round" 30-40 games added to the average player's rating per year will take forever to show any significant increase in skill level

You see this problem the most in younger players who improve very quickly. If their first tournament ever ends in a bad result, they get a bad rating, but say they improve to master status in the next 2 years... it would take 4-5 years of average attendance to tournaments for their rating to reflect this...

but unfortunately, we can not just magically have more tournaments, but I for one certainly appreciate Patrick and Dr. Beckwith for stepping up and helping out with the ratings

[Patrick Parker]

yes richard ill have southern done today
and 7th district? Mo
i got both of those it

any other tournaments send the round by round info and
relative tournament info so i can send it in

i dunno what happens once i send it in but if u send it to me
ill process and get it done

[Alex_Moiseyev]

I am wondering: if we don't post anything in the forum regards ACF ratings - rating will not be updated ? If My assumption is correct - I just brought back this topic.

In the past we had ACF rating list published officially in ACF Bulletin every two years. Today it's published only electronically (I can't remember this list in Bulletin in the past 4 years), and also on demand

Sincerely,

Alex

[rich beckwith]

I'm hoping to have ACF ratings update soon (or at least an estimate of when Dave will have them ready), if not this week. Much of the delay rests with me (trying to do too many administrative things while competing at national and WQT). Kudos to Patrick Parker for his scoresheet help, or this process would be going almost nowhere.

I also understand the WCDF ratings have been drafted and should be ready soon.

Yes, ratings used to be published in ACF bulletin at end of the year. I suppose this could still be done, but a couple pages of other info would have to be stripped to make room (or else there will be extra expense to include additional pages).

[Patrick Parker]

maybe we could do a top 25 ratings list?since
anymore than that would be so costly

[Michael Holmes]

Or top 32 (instead of the suggested top 25) since I am 32 right now! It should be easy enough to put 1000 or less names on just two (four if you count the back sides) pages. The print would be smaller than usual yet still readable.

p.s. I am currently in Midland, MI taking a college class over the weekend. Are there any checker players near here?

[Patrick Parker]

corey i think lives in michigan
does karl also?

[rich beckwith]

Karl Albrecht is close (Bay City), but last I heard, his health was not good.
Doug Hughson is nearer Detroit, but I haven't heard anything from him in a few years.

[Alex_Moiseyev]

I'm hoping to have ACF ratings update soon (or at least an estimate of when Dave will have them ready), if not this week ....

I also understand the WCDF ratings have been drafted and should be ready soon.

Thanks, Rich ! Any updates since October 23 ?

[william]

Merry christmas to everyone

I have been a bit scarce lately , but I see that the feuding is still going well concerning the ratings.

Unfortunately I put all my books and manuscripts into a big big box the other day and I do not know when they will come out again .

Having the chance to put even 1 hours practice a day is a great privelidge ( It used to be 8 or 9for me when I was a kid)
and having the chance to play at least 1 ty; per year is also.Unfortunately I have none.

There is now a system where before there was nothing and a bit like the universe this needs structuring ; so lets give these courageous guys some encouragementand time instead of wining like skinned pigs about who is nbr. 33 and who is nbr. 17.

I hope that the day I reopen my books that this problem will be solved as it is confusing the players as to the real aim of the game ; playing with professionalism , sportsmanship , and perhaps enthusiasm

To you all I wish a happy new year ; and to anyone who wants my rating they can gladly have it

WILLIAM DOCHERTY


When the shit hits you , don't forget , , it only happens to the living...
(A thought shared to me by Mr. kassab on one of my visits to Algeria this year)

[john reade]

William, Did you get my email? John.